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Monday 18 August 2014

BBC news: How safe is eating meat?

There have been a lot of news reports about the health risks of meat eating, but are they justified? Dr Michael Mosley has been investigating the truth behind the headlines for BBC Horizon.

I like eating meat, but what was once an innocent pleasure is now a guilty one.
If you believe the headlines, regularly indulging in a steak or a bacon sandwich raises your risk of heart disease and cancer.
The threat to health comes not from eating white meat, like chicken, but from red and processed meat.
Despite the negative headlines, on average Brits still eat about 70g of red and processed meat a day, with a quarter of men eating almost twice as much.
My wife, Clare, who is a GP, has for many years been trying to cut our family's consumption of red and processed meat. I, however, was resistant.
So we were both delighted when Horizon asked me to investigate what, if any, the risks really are.
I visited numerous experts, finding out what they themselves eat.
I also decided to go on a high-meat diet to see what effects doubling my intake to around 130g a day would have.
High fat content
There are lots of good things in red meat. Beef, whole or minced, is a great source of protein and essential nutrients, like iron and vitamin B12, which are vital for health.
On the downside, however, red and processed meat tend to be high in saturated fat.
Bacon and sausages have around 16 times more saturated fat per gram than tofu.
If you are a cheese-eating vegetarian you should not feel too smug. Cheese is, gram for gram, an even richer source of saturated fat than burgers.
Red and processed meat
Red meat includes steak, lamb, pork and mince.
Red meat looks darker than white meat like poultry because of higher levels of haemoglobin and myoglobin, the iron and oxygen-binding proteins you find in blood and muscle.
Processed meat includes bacon, sausages, salami and ham.
But how much does this matter?
One of the best ways to try to assess the impact of particular foods on our health is by doing cohort studies. You take a large group of people with varied diets, find out what they eat, then follow them for many years to see what diseases they develop.
Mortality risk debate
Professor Walter Willett, of the Harvard School of Public Health, heads a team that have been tracking the diets of tens of thousands of people for many years.
"We found that those who consumed higher amounts of red meat had a higher risk of total mortality, cardiovascular mortality and cancer mortality," he told me in the Harvard cafeteria, while I nonchalantly ate a large steak.
On the basis of one of the studies he co-authored - Red Meat Consumption and Mortality, published in Archives of Internal Medicine - he estimates regularly eating a small amount of unprocessed red meat (85g, around 3oz) is associated with a 13% increased risk of mortality, while eating a similar amount of processed red meat (a hot dog or two slices of bacon) is associated with a 20% increased risk.
Not surprisingly, he almost never eats meat.
He makes an extremely convincing case, yet as I discovered his results do not match those of a more recent European study published in BMC Medicine in 2013, Meat Consumption and Mortality.
Researchers from the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition (Epic) followed half a million people in 10 countries for more than 12 years.
The researchers found that eating moderate amounts of red meat had no effect on mortality. The lowest overall mortality rates were in those eating up to 80g a day.
Although there was a small increase in overall risk for those eating more than 160g, there was also a higher all-cause death rate amongst the non-meat eaters.
The researchers concluded that "a low - but not a zero - consumption of meat might be beneficial for health. This is understandable as meat is an important source of nutrients, such as protein, iron, zinc, several B-vitamins as well as vitamin A and essential fatty acids."
Dangers of processed meat
Before meat eaters go off rejoicing, there is a significant sting in the tail.
The Epic study, like almost every other study that has been done, found that eating processed meat, such as bacon, ham or salami, had a negative effect on health. Anything over 40g a day and deaths from heart disease and cancer began to climb.
The science is far from settled. The experts I met have strongly held but different opinions, reflected in what they themselves eat. In this Horizon we try to present the facts; where the truth lies is something only you can decide.
Eating lots more processed meat certainly had a bad effect on my body. After a month of bacon sandwiches and burgers I had piled on the weight and my blood pressure and cholesterol levels both soared.
I have gone back to my old diet, eating the occasional steak and pork chop. But there will be fewer burgers and sausages on the BBQ this year.
It's not surprising his weight BP and cholesterol soared given the burger buns and bread he consumed, If he repeated his experiment without the buns and bread that would have given more balance to his experiment.
Hat tip for this article to our friendhorfilmania.blogspot
More on this tonight on BBC 2 at 9.00 PM tonight.
Should I Eat Meat? - The Big Health Dilemma
Graham

17 comments:

Thom Berry said...

This guy, whom I actually quite like, also claims his NIDDM was cured by 'intermittent fasting' combined with a high intensity exercise regime. He does not allude to what he ate during the period of eating, just that he fasted for two of seven days in a week.
Now, I think you and I know that 'fasting' can be of advantage to many who wish to lose weight and HIT (high intensity training) is a well proven fitness/weight loss method, although I feel without an attendant adherence to a reasonably low carb diet it could be fruitless in the long term. But, to state his NIDDM was 'cured' by this protocol leads me to believe that he more likely had 'metabolic syndrome' rather than full NIDDM.
I like you, feel that the reference to sandwiches and burgers is the killer: refined white flour products, even wrapped around meat (although I would even contest that burgers are 'true meat') are likely to push up inflamatory markers and blood glucose. White flour also has the tendency to block Vitamin absorption in the gut thus negating the good work of meat and fats with their attendant essential vitamins such as A,B,D.E and K2. So it's no surprise then that his glucose was up and with that his insulin levels which weren't stated.
Weston Price had this worked out in the early 1930's and gave numerous examples of the damage that refined high carb diets caused to races thoughout the world that had become victims of our 'civilised diets'. It's a pity that so called 'scientists' don't do a little more study before embarking on experiments, even on themselves, that have already been undertaken by Nobel Prize Winners; back in the time when there were some real 'paleo' cohorts to study. We seem to have killed most of them off now, sadly,with our toxic diets and diseases.
Thom Berry. B.Asc.

JasmineJohend said...

This means I'm doomed.. Granted I don't eat the processed meats because I find them a no brake food and rich in sodium which causes weight gain and puffiness over the next few days. However I do eat a lot of red meat, chicken and fish. What's more my body loves eating like this. This is the way I am meant to eat, no study schmudy is going to change my mind, ever. If this way of eating is bad for me, well so be it, I feel great on it.

Meat is self-regulating, I can't binge on it, but I can certainly eat to satiety. It sticks in the ribs and a meal doesn't feel complete unless there is meat or egg.

I am sad that Mosley with his clout may put people off getting enough protein/amino acids, particularly the sick and elderly. I remember my hungry, tired diabetic mother eating frankenfoods and carbs because meat was "too fatty". I will go out eating a juicy t-bone not nibbling on a cracker.

Dr Paul Jones said...

Graham and Cronies,

The program which was in two parts, highlighted what has been know for quite a while but actively ignored by the likes of you.

Eating large volumes of meat especially processed meat significantly increases your risk of heart disease and cancer.

Mainly because of the L-carnitine and L-Methionine that is abundant in red meat.

Excessive L-Methionine accelerates ageing and L-carnitine due to gut bacteria metabolises into compounds that damages the arteries.

There also the fact the world hasn't the resources to sustain meat production.

Which was what the second part of the program was about.

As I've said your peddling rubbish on this blog and dangerous rubbish at that.

Non of you are qualified to advise anyone.

Regards

Dr Paul Jones - Carmarthen University

Lowcarb team member said...

Hi Jona

When did you get out ? we missed you.

Eddie

Cowpie said...

Haha!I see the loony veggie plant murderers have permeated your blog.


Anonymous said...

"There also the fact the world hasn't the resources to sustain meat production."

If that's the case we just have eat vegetarians to make up the short fall.

Lowcarb team member said...

"If that's the case we just have eat vegetarians to make up the short fall"

I took a bite out of Jona once, he tasted well rancid.

Eddie

Lowcarb team member said...

Dr Paul Jones …said

Quite and accomplished post for you Jonesy only a few grammatical errors, question is were you sober for once or did you get one of your students to write it?

Non of you are qualified to advise anyone.

Just how many times do I have to tell you we don't advise any one we just relate our own and friends experiences.

In case you missed this in my post I've highlighted it just for you.

there was also a higher all-cause death rate amongst the non-meat eaters.

Kind regards
Graham

Lowcarb team member said...

Just a thought but I was wondering if cattle produce more methane than vegetarians, given the amount of bullshit from Dr Jones I would say the latter.

Graham

paul1976 said...

Hi Graham! On the subject of methane Jonesy promised to send in his recipe for Brussel sprout curry and he never did! Plenty of free methane to be had with that me thinks! :-D

Paul

Lowcarb team member said...

paul1976 said...
Hi Graham! On the subject of methane Jonesy promised to send in his recipe for Brussel sprout curry and he never did! Plenty of free methane to be had with that me thinks! :-D

Yes I remember that Paul, I also recall Jonesy told us he was doing a UK tour promoting his veggie diet.

Graham

Dr Paul Jones said...

Gramham trying to be cleaver said,

"Just how many times do I have to tell you we don't advise any one we just relate our own and friends experiences."

What you claim in writing to be doing and what you do is two different things.

A more fitting word than "ADVICE" would be preach.

What I've written on this blog before is that what you preach is akin to religious dogma, rather than scientific fact.

Thanks for mentioning my lectures they be going pretty well.

However it would be like a broken pencil, pointless. To direct you to site with unsolicited testimonial and praise of my talks.

Regards

Dr Paul Jones - Carmarthen University

Lowcarb team member said...

Dr Paul Jones said...
Gramham trying to be cleaver said,

Given your atrocious spelling looks like you've been on the clown juice again Jonsey

What you claim in writing to be doing and what you do is two different things.

Into my seventh year of LowCarb is an indisputable fact not a claim.

A more fitting word than "ADVICE" would be preach.

That’s a bit rich coming from you preacher boy.

What I've written on this blog before is that what you preach is akin to religious dogma, rather than scientific fact.

My experiences relating to my diabetes is based on factual blood tests results, rather strange of you to refer to it as religious dogma wouldn’t you agree Jonesy

Thanks for mentioning my lectures they be going pretty well.

Were you on your pulpit preaching then?

However it would be like a broken pencil, pointless. To direct you to site with unsolicited testimonial and praise of my talks.

Come off it Jonsey your away with the fairies living in a fantasy world.

Dr Paul Jones - Carmarthen University man of many words but little substance coming to a venue near you.

Blessed are the meat eaters.
Kind regards
Graham

Lowcarb team member said...

Old Jona reminds me of a drunken dietitian I used to know, as the day wore on, the spelling got worse. The information she spouted was always sub-standard whatever the time of day.

Eddie

Dr Paul Jones said...

Graham said,

Given your atrocious spelling looks like you've been on the clown juice again Jonsey

Grand coming from someone that looks like a clown without make-up on :o)

The fact stands you and your cronies are preaching dietary dogma not dietary fact.

I've always been a supporter of independent thinking.

But.....

Your flights of fancy have soared to high.

Regards

Dr Paul Jones - Carmarthen University

Lowcarb team member said...

Jona said

"I've always been a supporter of independent thinking"

Mercifully you can't think Jona, that's why you are a bit of harmless fun over here.

Perish the day when you may be able to think past the next pint.

Eddie

Lowcarb team member said...

Dr Paul Jones said...

The fact stands you and your cronies are preaching dietary dogma not dietary fact.

Fact: Excess dietary carbohydrates raise blood sugar levels which in turn in a Diabetic can cause serious complications or in the worst scenario death.

I've always been a supporter of independent thinking.

Just so long as it agrees with your way of thinking Jonsey !

But.....

Your flights of fancy have soared to high.


Try as we may we could never achieve the dizzy heights of your flights of fancy.

Dr Paul Jones - Carmarthen University coming to a forum near you soon.

Peace love and streaky bacon

Graham