Some of you guys out there of a certain vintage, i.e ex rock and rollers, with one foot in the grave like me, will remember the old fashioned Barbers Shops. Cheerful chatty Barbers, a pile of car and girlie mags on the table and some good jokes. Back in the old days, after your hair was cut and as you were paying, the Barber would often say “anything for the weekend Sir ?”. This was polite code for do you want to buy some condoms. In those far off days, Barbers supplemented their income by selling contraceptives. Ok I can hear you asking, what in hells name has contraception, got to do with diabetes and the weekend ? Stay with me.
Over at my favourite diabetes forum d.co.uk, yet another highcarb lowcarb debate is in full swing. Ex Kenny boys clique members are on the war path for the umpteenth time. Making themselves look more stupid with every post. The Cherub “It is better to have an open mind than one closed by belief” oh the irony, and Kenny’s performing monkey, are blowing what’s left of their brains out trying to defend the abysmal dietary advice dolled out by the NHS. Nobhead hasn’t joined in yet, “Mr I'm with you on this one Sid” and Phoenix must be down the shops. Stand by for their appearance later in the day, if the thread is not locked !
That’s the game that has worked in the past for the clique, stifle any debate by turning a meaningful debate into a punch up. In Kenny’s days, he would lead the vultures on, and then ban the opposition who dared to speak against the diet of death. Those days are hopefully over, no doubt Daisy will soon be along pleading for calm. I don’t believe she is influenced by Ken for one minute, although she is one of his few regular forum posters.
Oh, I almost forgot, weekend, contraception. Well, I think we have a great weekend lined up on the forum, and contraception, I’ll let you work that one out.
Eddie
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11 comments:
As if by magic - nobhead appears...
From the very man.
"With respect Stephen but what I did say was the 50/50 split was relevant to those who have posted on this subject on this very forum......remember not everyone who joins here shares their experiences and we need to keep this in mind, in truthfulness we will never know the National figure of those who receives good/bad advice and are happy with their diabetes care."
Wrong again.
NHS Statistics for 2008 2009:
Percentage of Type 1 diabetics with HbA1c greater than 7.5 per cent = 71.4 per cent.
Percentage of Type 2 diabetics with HbA1c greater than 7.5 per cent = 33.4 per cent.
Percentage of Type 1 diabetics with HbA1c greater than 10.0 per cent = 33.6 per cent.
Percentage of Type 2 diabetics with HbA1c greater than 10.0 per cent = 14.3 per cent.
These results are very similar to those found in 2006 – 2007 and 2007 – 2008.
These people are getting poor advice, or are they looking for the roll of Blind Pew in a remake of Treasure Island ?.
Eddie
The NHS statsistics prove that many people are being failed. How any one can defend the NHS Diabetic diet is beyond me and just doesn't make any sense.
Anne
If DCUK is saying a low carb diet is up to 225 carbs then they are giving odd advice too surely.
Benedict has written it on this link.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/low-carb-diabetes-diet.html
I wonder what is going on? Would we agree that 225 is a moderate amount as Benedict does quoting from DUK?
"If DCUK is saying a low carb diet is up to 225 carbs then they are giving odd advice too surely."
This is what I found at the link given on the last comment, it actually states 130 to 225g carbs is mmoderate carbs not low carb.
"Moderate carbohydrate: 130 to 225g of carbs
Low carbohydrate: under 130g of carbs
Very low carbohydrate: under 30g of carbs"
Mel
Benedict puts the 225 as moderate low carb on a page about low carbing. It is quite misleading and the video is so boring it would be good to watch if you couldn't sleep.
I like Benedict, I think he is great bloke. Let's face it, we can't all be Jimmy Moore. Benedict has done a great job at d.co.uk, all credit to him.
Eddie
Nobhead
Wrong Again
Two thirds of people with Type 1 diabetes and almost half of Type 2 patients do not receive all nine annual health checks to manage their diabetes effectively, according to the biggest ever audit of diabetes in England and Wales.
The National Diabetes Audit 2010
John
This from DCUK re Low Carb Diet.
"What counts as low carb?
Charity Diabetes UK provides the following brackets for daily carbohydrate intakes."
"A research study in 2008 link[7] used the following brackets to categorise daily carbohydrate intake"
"Moderate carbohydrate: 130 to 225g of carbs
Low carbohydrate: under 130g of carbs
Very low carbohydrate: under 30g of carbs"
This is from the link provided by DCUK.
"The ADA designates low carbohydrate diets as less than 130 g/d or 26% of a nominal 2000 kcal diet and we consider this a reasonable cutoff for the definition of a low-carbohydrate diet."
Graham
Quote from Mr Bonkers!
"I am yet to see this NHS leaflet that tells diabetics to eat a high carb diet can one of you please show me where I can see one?"
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=27525#p254173
Until last year the advice was;
Carbohydrate-
45-60% of energy intake.
So a 2500cal diet would mean between 280 to 375g carb's/day, in my book that's a high carb diet.
guidelines
Graham
Check out the new DCUK forum member Mac-Nutrition's website!
Mac-Nutrition
Graham
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