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Wednesday 24 October 2012

Phoenix at diabetes.co.uk and why we need people like her !


A few days ago I said in a post we need the lowcarb antis. Most of them shoot themselves in the foot and limp away from a thread when it goes pear shaped for them, and it almost always does. The point is these people give great opportunities time after time to spread the lowcarb message. One lowcarb anti is in a class of her own, I expect you have realised I’m talking about Phoenix. She is one clever and very shrewd woman. She walks a very fine line between Florence Nightingale and Cruella De Vile. A useful post here, an informative post there, but always hovering like a vulture waiting to land. This person lives to cause confusion and doubt among the diabetes.co.uk membership. Let’s not forget, this person likes to tell us she has a top diabetes team at her disposal, an insulin pump, and adequate testing facilities. She has posted on her blog the wonderful French food she eats and carbs are a very large part of her daily diet. I think it is fair to say she has her diabetes under excellent control and life is good for her. But what about the others ? The others who have none of the benefit she has, the many diabetics who can’t even get a test strip from their Doctor, the people that are not highly educated and have been very poorly advised. The people who have diet or meds that have been proved to kill as their only options. Clearly Phoenix has nothing but contempt for these people. She proved it yesterday when she posted the quote below. This was on a thread that was discussing the complete failure of the Look Ahead Trial to improve CVD outcomes for type two diabetics by a modest reduction in weight and calorie reduction. The trial participants were on a 55% carb diet, just how big pharma likes it, and of course Phoenix.

“Would they have done better on a different type of diet; who knows? It is not sensible to try to compare them with a few people on a forum”

“Would they have done better on a different type of diet; who knows?” Come on Phoenix you know full well they would have done better on a lowcarb diet ! The average drop in HbA1c over 11 years was around 0.5% I lost 6 full points in HbA1c in three months as I have reported many times. I say this not by way of self-aggrandizement because so many others have achieved the same, it’s very easy with some self discipline and some help from people who know what they are doing.

“It is not sensible to try to compare them with a few people on a forum” A few people on a forum ! Surely you are not talking about diabetes.co.uk. Over the last four years countless hundreds of people have posted weight loss, BG numbers plummeting, improved lipid counts and so much more by adopting a lowcarb lifestyle. I think you have shown great injustice to people who have worked very hard to get to a safe place without all the benefits you have. Please remember, they cannot dial up a couple more units of insulin on the pumps they do not have when they fancy a donut. 

Keep on giving us a good reason to post and reminding us why the NHS stats for diabetics are so grim. People like you have played a big roll in the downfall of so many diabetics, you are a true credit to big pharma and the Hope Warshaw's of this world.


Eddie 

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=34128&start=15

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi Eddie

She has her Florence Nightingale mask on tonight.

{Insert Name Here} said...

Anonymous said...
Hi Eddie

She has her Florence Nightingale mask on tonight.

I take it ... that was sarcasm .... the latest classic .... poison ivy Phoenix ... at her worst ....

"It is a shame that you feel the need to leave the forum, though I understand why." ....

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=33883&start=15

Anonymous said...

Leaving the forum is more positive than being banned like you lot.

Lowcarb team member said...

Phoenix wrote:

“Would they have done better on a different type of diet; who knows? It is not sensible to try to compare them with a few people on a forum”

One things for sure you'll have a job finding any forum members that have successfully controlled T2 following DUK/ADA guidelines without resorting to high levels of medications.

Graham

Lowcarb team member said...

Anonymous said...

"Leaving the forum is more positive than being banned like you lot."

Is being driven away by the bully boy tactics of Sid Bonkers positive.

Check out this member who never returned after Sids comment.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=26287#p241441

Graham

Anonymous said...

Oops Eddie how many did you drive away! The fact is there are about a dozen regular posters who ridicule anyone who does not agree with them never to return

Lowcarb team member said...

"Oops Eddie how many did you drive away!"

Kenny boy and his many trolls and glove puppets, Ally the resident dietition and a few other morons. Most of them hang out at Carbos rest home for the failed. You can achieve so much with a blog, and the best part is no thread locking, post editing or deletion. The sort of thing the remains of Kens clique are so good at. It gets even better when you consider we are still posting on the forum. We are getting our cake and eating it, lowcarb almond flour of course. What larks as my mate Dillinger would say.

Toodle pip Eddie

Anonymous said...

You have the dubious honour of closing a LC forum down too.

Anonymous said...

Eddie had been gone over six months when the LC forum shut down. Check it out with Karen aka chocfish aka WhitbyJet at DCUK

John said...

"Check it out with Karen aka chocfish aka WhitbyJet"

Not to be confused with WhitbyAraucaria

WhitbyAraucaria said...

"If your memory serves you well
You'll remember you're the one"

Karen, was the last poster on David's forum. Since then, under various guises she has posted on Carbo's blog and d.co.uk

Be very, very careful if you PM her! Ask Ken

Anonymous said...

I think Superchip is more of a danger. He reminds me of someone on this blog.

Lowcarb team member said...

Anonymous said...
"I think Superchip is more of a danger. He reminds me of someone on this blog."

Dream on sunshine your comment is worthy (hint of sarcasm) of carbo/tubolards Fantasy Island blog.

Another omnipresent LowCarber

Graham