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Monday 30 December 2013

The Paleo diet is it a winner ?

Below is a comment made by Jill on a comment made by Brett on the Brett picks up the gauntlet thread.


This morning an anonymous comment came in stating “mm - a study published recently suggests there is evidence of heart disease in these people - there is also alot of guess work!” I asked for clarification and a link, anon posted this “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMOjVYgYaG8


There is a study - reference to follow but that video says quite a bit. I also saw on google at a recent conference in the UK experts showed there was little evidence that paleo works for athletes. I think it is adapted to suit as certainly many foods touted as paleo are processed such as butter, bacon, coconut and olive oil.”


From Paul


Anonymous said… "...are processed such as butter, bacon, coconut and olive oil."


What? Compared to the likes of Frankenfats such as Flora margarine and 1 kcal spray oil that resembles something you might use in the motor industry...I'll stick to good old butter and olive oil!


From Jill


“Brett said "A lot of people have mentioned the diet of our ancestors, they had a life expectancy of how many years?"


This has to be the most misleading non-argument ever. Adjusted for infant mortality and death by traumatic injury, our Paleolithic ancestors lived just as long as us - they didn't die of heart disease, cancer, autoimmune diseases and diabetes though. They were also taller and had much better dentition than the agriculturalists that came after them. Paleontologists can tell the difference between hunter gatherer and Neolithic populations immediately because of the pathologies caused by diets based on grain.”


I don’t see my diet as being Paleo, I have regular access to foods that would have been rarely available, if ever, back in those times. My take on a healthy diet is pretty much whatever you eat, it must be better than the so called US food pyramid diet of death used in the UK and much of the developed world. What say you ?


At close to 60 years of age Paleo man Mark Sisson has the body of an athlete less than half his age.



As always say what you like, if it’s legal we will post it.

Eddie

From Doug

Confession, I do not know much about paleo or primal or whatever it's called. When diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes it was my other half who found your website and made the change to my diet and since after the family diet. Even my daughters both teenagers now eat a much reduced carbohydrate and higher fat meal than before I became ill. My HbA1c results over the years since diagnosis are in the high now mid fives. I owe this to my other half and the way she provides this LCHF food we all eat.

Joking aside as I always liked eating cakes the godsend has been the variety of low carb cakes I can still eat. But the important thing to me is my blood test and my meter readings.





17 comments:

Anonymous said...

oh dear that is not a good look Mark!

Lowcarb team member said...

I think a lot of people will disagree with you.

Eddie

Anonymous said...

I suppose if you like dyed hair and a body that does not fit his face - yes.

Lowcarb team member said...

Don't BS me, I have it on good authority you have Marks photograph on your bedside cabinet.

Eddie

Anonymous said...

"oh dear that is not a good look Mark!"

I guess you prefer fat pot bellied baldies.

Joan

Anonymous said...

No actually I like people who look their age - he looks odd. If he was female the phrase mutton dressed as lamb springs to mind

Anonymous said...

Confession, I do not know much about paleo or primal or whatever it's called. When diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes it was my other half who found your website and made the change to my diet and since after the family diet.Even my daughters both teenagers ow eat a much reduced carbohydrate and higher fat meal than before I became ill.My HbA1c results over the years since diagnosis are in the high now mid fives. I owe this to my other half and the way she provides this LCHF food we all eat.
Joking aside as I always liked eating cakes the godscend has been the variety of low carb cakes I can still eat. But the important thing to me is my blood test and my meter readings.

Doug ( now going for a lay down after all this typing )

Anonymous said...

What a pity you used such a weird looking bloke to publicise your topic.
He looks as though he dyes his hair, spends forever on sun beds and is holding his stomach in. A right poser.

Lowcarb team member said...

To negative anon.

Two words, second word OFF

Eddie

Anonymous said...

Mark looks ok to me and doesn't he live in the States? Probably runs on the beach or surfs by the look of his picture.

Unknown said...

Yes, Mark Sisson lives in Malibu and spends a lot of time outdoors - half his luck!

As for the Warriner video, Robb Wolf did a pretty good job of debunking the debunker here: http://robbwolf.com/2013/04/04/debunking-paleo-diet-wolfs-eye-view/

Anonymous said...

WARNING: Meat and Dairy Can Rapidly Alter Gut Bacteria and Cause Inflammation
"...the study unlocks a potentially new avenue for treating intestinal disease. I would add that it likely unlocks ways to treat other inflammatory diseases in the body. Heart disease, diabetes, arthritis, and even cancer..."
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/meat-and-dairy-consumption-rapidly-alter-gut-bacteria-cause-inflammation.html

Lowcarb team member said...

Anonymous said...
WARNING: Meat and Dairy Can Rapidly Alter Gut Bacteria and Cause Inflammation

Define rapidly anon!

I've been eating meat and dairy all my life just how long does it take for this inflammation to emerge?

Graham

Lowcarb team member said...

Indy Jill said...
As for the Warriner video, Robb Wolf did a pretty good job of debunking the debunker here: http://robbwolf.com/2013/04/04/debunking-paleo-diet-wolfs-eye-view/

Live link Robb Wolf: http://robbwolf.com/2013/04/04/debunking-paleo-diet-wolfs-eye-view/

Many thanks Jill we value your contribution.

Cheers
Graham

Unknown said...

Re the study quoted, the jury still seems to be out on exactly what constitutes a healthy gut biome. This is a new field of research, basically in its infancy. What they don't know probably far exceeds the little that they do. It's a fascinating area of study and the work they're doing with the Hadza hunter/gatherers' microbiome should be very interesting:

http://humanfoodproject.com/please-pass-microbes/

Galina L. said...

OK, even (big) IF meat and dairy could alter gut bacteria in a negative way, LC diet is not necessary based around big amounts of meat and dairy, but starches and sugars replaced by fat, and sides like rice, pasta and potatoes replaced with with broccoli, eggplants,zucchinis and different salads.

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