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Tuesday 17 April 2012

Long is the way, And hard, that out of hell leads up to light. Milton

A question for Edie
Posted on Carbos blog last night by Carbs United.
"Can you explain in simple terms what exactly you have been doing to the non low carbers for the last four years?"

The term non low carbers is too wide. Many of my family and good diabetic and non diabetic friends are not low carbers. I have nothing against non low carbers. I feel what have I been doing to a small group of non low carbers is more accurate. The non low carbers that have done their best to stifle almost every good debate at The type of non low carbers, that start a thread on the forum, knowing it will lead to an argument, and then have brass necked nerve, to ask a mod to lock the thread when losing the argument. See the links posted here yesterday. That have been the main cause of misinformation and spreaders of fear. The small band of antis, that have worked in a pack, very often with the aid of a moderator, to get good people banned, to bully and ridicule quite members, who do not want confrontation, to rail road so many off the forum. The small band of antis that formed a clique behind a moderator that deleted, thousands of posts by low carbers, because they stood up and exposed him for what he is. And hasn’t he proved us right, with his efforts to rubbish the forum, and members that dare to speak the truth and not be intimidated. I could go on a bore people rigid, but in short, I believe this small band have been destructive and a total menace to the confused and newly diagnosed.

Doctor Katharine Morrison summed the situation up so succinctly four years ago, in her post to Ally, anther spreader of fear and misinformation and a devout member of the clique, but how well it also applies to the other clique members.

November 13th, 2008, 7:45 am

I think there would be a lot less hostility towards you Ally if you actually gave constructive advice to people. Many diabetics have not had a positive relationship with NHS dieticians, myself included. A few have had their problems listened to and appropriately addressed and I hope the situation will continue to improve.

I have yet to see a post from you which is written with the aim of helping someone get better control of their diabetes or improve their nutritional state. So far I have simply seen one post after another of the "Do not try this at home variety." None of your negative comments regarding low carbing have been substantiated by scientific evidence. I am patiently waiting for your scientifically based expose of the errors of Dr Bernstein's method and Gary Taubes collection of evidence. All we have got so far is personal opinion.

Doctor Katharine, like so many great people, got the third degree from the clique and left the forum. A diabetes expert with a type one son, a highly valuable asset to any diabetes forum, gone and sadly missed. We know how Doctor Jay was treated, abysmally. And what did Ken do as soon as Jay was gone ? Launch a poll asking, Do we want healthcare professionals posting on forum ? You can understand why, the last thing the clique wanted was an expert exposing the dross from the same bunch of antis.
So, “what exactly have I been doing for the last four years” Well on the positive side, I have been paying for a website that helps the newly diagnosed and poorly controlled. This site has brought us into contact with many people our team has helped. Our team has been helping people on and off forums, spreading the low carb good news, we have helped so many to lose weight, so many to non diabetic BG numbers, so many to improved lipids and many to nil or reduced medication. We have posted lots of great food ideas and links to diabetes information. The positive side is long, what about the negative.

Some will say that list is also long. It is true I have ridiculed the ridiculers, bullied the bullies, taken on the wreckers and spreaders of fear and misinformation. I have fought and exposed people like Ken, Carbo, the registered dietition and director of the BDA, who had so much to say, but so little by way of showing compassion, or assistance to the growing band of newly diagnosed diabetics. I have used every way possible to expose the low carb antis, that the links posted yesterday clearly demonstrate how they operate. I have regrets, I and our team had few tools at our disposal. All banned from the forum, we would have liked to have stayed on the forum, and help others. To continue the great work started by Fergus, Dennis, Timo, Doctor Katharine and so many others that the small band of naysayers and low carb antis wore down, alas, it was not to be. Back to the positive.

Under Benedict’s leadership his moderator team are doing a great job. Gone are the days when ex mods like Ken, Tubolard, SarahQ and Jopar could thread lock, ban and delete members posts on a whim. A comparatively new bunch of good honest people are helping the poorly controlled, the newly diagnosed and people in trouble. I believe the forum is back to being a great place. If you are not a member or are a member that decided to leave, please get back over there, help others less fortunate than yourselves. Tell them your good news and how you achieved it. The last word to Doctor Malcolm Kendrick.

“The reality is that over the years, and around the world we have killed literally millions of diabetics by advising them to eat a high-carb diet and avoid fats. Only now is it being recognised that previous advice was and remains useless, dangerous and scientifically illiterate"


Anonymous said...

A question for Edie
Posted on Carbos blog last night by Carbs United.
"Can you explain in simple terms what exactly you have been doing to the non low carbers for the last four years?"

Trying to save them from the likes of you and jopar I should think.


Lowcarb team member said...

Phoenix is back pushing her GI diet on DCUK, I checked out the link she gave this is what I found in the "breakfast on the go section"

"Banana Ginger Muffins

Makes 1 dozen/ serving size: 1 muffin

Preparation time: 20 minutes

Cook time: 20 minutes


2 cups all purpose flour (use some whole wheat if deisred)
2 tsp. baking powder
1 tsp. cinnamon
1 egg
1 egg white
1/4 cup unsweetened applesauce
2 Tbsp. canola oil
2 Tbsp. brown sugar
2 bananas, mashed
2 tsp. finely grated fresh ginger (or use 1 tsp. ground)
1.Preheat the oven to 350 degrees. Combine the flour, baking powder and cinnamon in a medium bowl. In a large bowl, combine the remaining ingredients.
2.Slowly add the dry ingredients to the egg mixture. Mix well, but gently. Do not overbeat.
3.Pour the batter into 12 sprayed non-stick muffin cups. Bake the muffins for 20-25 minutes until center comes out clean and the muffins are lightly brown. Remove the muffins from the oven and cool 10 minutes in the pan. Remove the muffins from the pan and cool them completely."

Low GI really!


Lowcarb team member said...

Another link that phoenix posted a while back, it seems that ripe bananas are low GI, any volunteers to put them to the test?


Anonymous said...

Have a rest boys the clique is finished. Ken blown it and carbos gang are panicking. DUK is sorted.

Anonymous said...

I don't get why two type 1 pumpers are so obsessed with the way we manage our type 2 diabetes, do they not realise there is a difference between the two, it appears not.